Monday, November 23, 2015

Is the islamic veil a denial of freedom ?




In France, the debate about islamic veil is one of the favorite topics of our philosophers, politicians and feminists. Of course, it is difficult for the country where the first woman wore jeans to understand why a woman would choose to cover her body and head in order to be discrete. The « white feminism » values refuses to include veil as a freedom of choice. For many feminist, specially Femen, a veiled women is either submissive to her husband who obliged her to wear the veil or submissive to her culture that may see her as a bad women if she doesn’t wear the headscarf also known as hijab. Even though many muslim feminists claim veil as a personal choice, the « occidental feminism » refuses to see the freedom in this act. Of corse, we can’t deny the fact that in many societies such as Saudi Arabia and Iran, veil is obligatory for all women and this kind of obligation is ridiculous, but what about a woman in Europe or elsewhere, who is fully educated and who chooses to wear the headscarf ?

The worst thing about freedom, is that we all have a strict definition of it that takes away the freedom itself from the word. This is also the case of our occidental civilisation which claims its values are universal and valid for all place and times. The idea of «freeing those who can’t free themselves » is an idea we can find in Sartre and de Beauvoir’s writings, it is also a very marxist idea, of the « stupid crowd » to which we should show the right way, to which we should give the idea of freedom and revolution in order for these people to emancipate themselves from their conditions. This idea of setting free the poor Arab/muslim women from their archaic culture and the patriarchal society in which they live. But the curious thing about this kind of idea of freedom, is that it considers the others as not free at all ! It objectifies women from this specific culture and already categorize them as submissive without even asking them wether they felt the same. The debate about veiled women is actually the same debate about prostitution, we ask everyone but never the women who are concerned by the subject. In this, the feminism we know in Europe is acting exactly the same way men acted and considered women in the patriarchal societies : objects without any freedom, without any opinion, children we should decide for. I read lately a very interesting comics written by an Egyptian young women, this comic is entitled Qahera, and the interesting thing about her is that she is a superhero veiled women who fights for her rights in a patriarchal society but also against the occidental feminism that considers her as a poor little baby they should save. I encourage you to read this comic because it explains a lot about the islamic/Arab feminist fighting to exist. 



The Comics : http://qaherathesuperhero.com/index


To be able to choose, is also to be able to do the « bad choice » the incorrect one as some people may see it. Not wearing bras is a freedom, walking around topless is a freedom, but also wearing a veil is a freedom, a long skirt should be considered just as free as a short skirt. If we believe in freedom we believe in it as a global thing, and we can paraphrase Clemenceau who said« La révolution est un bloc », by «  La liberté est un bloc», freedom is a whole, we can’t choose what suits us and reject what we don’t really like. So if we cherish freedom, why should we confiscate others from it? If we think that Freedom is choosing whatever suits us, why would than be good and bad choices and who puts us as a judge of freedom ?

An other point is very interesting concerning veil as a religious « obligation ». We can ask if being submissive to a God may be considered as a freedom? since actually religion is one of the different ways to fight against absurdity. To be a believer and to apply God’s rules to one’s life is the case of millions of people wether they are Jewish, Muslims, Christians, Buddhists… Each religion has its own beliefs and rules, and there is no religion without rites and veil or long skirts are one of this kind of religious choices jewish or muslim women may do because they feel closer to their God, they think about it as an emancipation of people’s gazes and a way to have a discrete look and remain in the idea of « modesty » that came with religion. If this people are feeling free the way they choose to be dressed, why should anyone tell them it’s not freedom since it doesn’t fit our definition of freedom. 


To conclude, I believe our obsession about veil comes from our obsession with the women body in general. Society itself wants the woman’s body to be always ruled by certain conventions. If the woman is too covered than she is not emancipated enough, if she is not « enough » covered that she is worthless and disrespectful toward herself and toward society. Women body should be set free. Judging what is or not conventional is finally dispossessing a woman of her own body and take away from her, her personal will, which is completely anti-feminist and therefore destructive of freedom itself.

9 comments:

  1. Hello Ahlem
    I find your analysis of freedom very interesting. Especially the question of freedom to submit to a religion or a God. It is very probable that in France we consider freedom as totally outside of religion. During the Enlightments, the first step to conquer freedom was to escape the religious influence. I believe that in French society, there is a kind of atheism ideology and that is why we have so many difficulties to accept the veil.
    What is your opinion about that ? :)

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    1. Hi Anna,
      I agree with you on our french concept of Laicité and Freedom being linked to Enlightments. But about accepting or not, it is not our job to do it. If Freedom is also a very french ideology, than choice is a freedom and we don't have any word to say on other people's choice. It's like people accepting or not homosexuality, i mean, who are we to accept or not other people's choice and that is why i really think we are missing the meaning of freedom here. Still, i believe being for or against the idea of veil is a freedom, we actually can not agree with the idea of it, or it's aim, but not accept it for other people is a denial of freedom, their own freedom.

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  2. Hi Ahlem,
    I like your last paragraph where you summed it up as 'our obsession with the women body', because it led way to reset the target to fight against in these subjects. Just like you said, how women dresses is not what we should be worried about. The Looks and the reaction of society which inhibit them from wearing what they want are.
    Also I find Anna's comment interesting. As a atheist myself I tend to be at ease with the french laïcité, however as the debate goes, for some religious people freedom is what you seek though the religion. To be honest I am always a bit lost on this subject, but from time to time I wonder if the consequences of laïcité policy are as successful as they say. Maybe I wandered too much for a philosophical debate...

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    1. Hi Haen, thank you for your comment !
      I'm also at ease with the french laicité, i really believe it is a great philosophy : religious freedom with a strict separation between religion and the state. But i really think that this beautiful ideology is now leading us to a certain intolerance toward other cultures which is sad because it's basically a law that was made for tolerance.

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  3. Hi Ahlem,
    I like your last paragraph where you summed it up as 'our obsession with the women body', because it led way to reset the target to fight against in these subjects. Just like you said, how women dresses is not what we should be worried about. The Looks and the reaction of society which inhibit them from wearing what they want are.
    Also I find Anna's comment interesting. As a atheist myself I tend to be at ease with the french laïcité, however as the debate goes, for some religious people freedom is what you seek though the religion. To be honest I am always a bit lost on this subject, but from time to time I wonder if the consequences of laïcité policy are as successful as they say. Maybe I wandered too much for a philosophical debate...

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  4. Hi Ahlem,
    I find your article very interesting. It is really interesting the idea that we see islamic veil with our "west eyes" and our own values. When you speak about prostitution I am totally agree with you. There is a debate in France about the legalisation of prostitution and I think it is very difficult to find an answer if we don't ask prostitutes what they think about it. We can't know how people feel about their freedom. Is the idea of de Beauvoir that we have the duty to make the other people free is a very good one ?

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    1. Hi Lorette,

      Well for that point, i really think that the idea of freedom is not me bringing you to freedom but you working for your own freedom when you notice you are oppressed, and at that point, when the people concerned are conscious of their oppression and need help yes, we have to help them. But we can't just go and be like :
      -Oh you are suffering i have to help you !
      - No, i'm not suffering, really, thank you.
      -Neh, you are suffering, chut-up.
      This is quiet caricatural but that is how we conceive freedom today. Only from our point of view and with our european way to see life

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  5. Hey Ahlem,

    Echoing what the commenters above said but strongly agree with your post. Your comparison of the veil debate to prostitution is spot-on, in that people are so quick to either defend or denounce the two based on the premise of liberation, when these same people have never experienced being a veiled woman or a sex worker and therefore can never have a fully formed opinion.

    The necessity to find for people's freedom worldwide, as Sartre and Beauvoir advocated, is troublesome to me as well. I think as intellectuals/philosophers/academics/etc become increasingly progressive (hopefully, though that isn't even guaranteed), we'll find a better way to apply Sartre and Beauvoir's mission with a more inclusive approach. To not only pinpoint who is being oppressed, but then to ask those who are pinpointed if they actually believe they are being oppressed. There is the argument that some people don't even realize they are being oppressed......but then why fight for them? At the end of it all, what matters that people are happy. Maybe they aren't realizing their full potential of "freedom," but as you said, we have specific ideas of what "freedom" is, so in our hopes to help, we are just imposing our own Western conditioning.

    This is a bit of a rant, but yes I agree. As the saying going, "to each their own."

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    1. Hi Sasha,
      Inclusive is the right word. It is actually the thing we need the most, specially when talking about human being. We live in a multicultural society but we still have our very old keys to understanding. If we should build a society that is new, that is adapted to our mixity and differences, than it should be inclusive.

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